I wonder if Pastor Ascol has ever encountered a church member during his years in ministry who had committed adultery, and if so, if he called for the death penalty as Leviticus also prescribes...
Baptist leader Tom Ascol quoted Leviticus 20:13. Notice how he ignores the admonition three verses prior to that one: And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
A textbook example of the buffet style religion of these hypocrites.
The biggest difference between Desantis and tRump is that the first guy is just a vicious fascist, and the other is criminally insane, and will use any angle for a criminal grift.
the governor god of florida is just a ham fisted brutal bully,in it for power over everyone. TFG is just a conman, in it for money and personal glory and the glee of the grift.
They are both dangerous. The grifter must be convicted for his crimes. The governor god must be stopped before he opens concentration camps for Disney execs and LGBTQ and POC folks... and all women... and the death penalty for anyone who dares speak truth in his "realm".
As for the "evangos" who support either of these men... well, they've been grifting for centuries, so... why do any of them have tax exempt status again?
NYT: "The New York Times BREAKING NEWS : The House passed a bill in a bipartisan vote to avert a default on the nation’s debt and set spending limits. It heads to the Senate next." Apparently 314 to 117.
Interesting discussion with Michael, especially on the recent backlash against gay culture.
While we have always attributed the anti-gay position in the right wing to its religious leanings, a story in either the NYT or WaPo (probably Phillip Bump) had stats that the far right ain't the churchy people that it once was.
While probably calling themselves Christians an solid majority of right wing Republicans had "infrequently" or "never" attended a church service in the past year!!!
So while accusing Dems of being God-hating, secularists...the right-wing culture seems to enjoy the same "eating left-over pizza" on Sunday morning instead of Communion hosts.
desantis with the help of his compliant legislature and at times over their objections is already de facto fascist dictator of FL. His desire to control all business, how they think, what they say. His full on school indoctrination of children, his banning of books and speech HE does not agree with and his unmitigated cruelty in how he deals with immigrants and minorities. For desantis cruelty is indeed the point. But the man is not likable and as long as t**** draws breath pudding fingers is going nowhere
FYI, I think Charlie knows this, but because he wrote at the end about Trump's belief that Paxton is still AG and more importantly, will have the power to influence the 2024 election, an interest point didn't come across.
The important point is that while Paxton currently remains AG in title, after his impeachment he was immediately SUSPENDED from his duties until the conclusion of the impeachment trial in the Texas Senate:
Is anyone trying to figure out who is paying for all of these evangelical or right wing kooks? It seems to me that the money must be coming from a few, very wealthy donors who want to keep the current crop of Republicans in office to give the donors more tax breaks and increase their wealth. The total amount of corruption is mind blowing. Someone needs to be keeping track.
If it wasn't obvious at the time, I think it's clear in retrospect that Tara Reade was effectively the nail in the coffin of the #MeToo movement. A movement which, regardless of the good it accomplished, was always fated to collapse under the weight of credibility concerns.
Not only did Reade turn out to be an unctuous Putin apologist, further investigation revealed that she had a history of making dubious or ouright fraudulent assertions in her personal and professional life. Her claims regarding her educational and professional background, upon which she had served as an expert witness in several trials, were found to be fabrications. She could have been prosecuted for perjury had it been determined that her testimony was ultimately material to the cases in question.
You may also recall a separate accusation at the time which, ironically, ended up further dousing the flames of Reade's accusations. The daughter of one of Biden's old Delaware political rivals had claimed that decades ago, when she was around 14, he had made some inappropriate comments regarding her body at a political event. This story was notable for just how quickly it was snuffed out, as it was easily determined that Biden hadn't actually attended that event. At which point the accuser adjusted her story to state that it must have been from the same event the year prior. Turns out Biden wasn't at that one either.
But what was really notable about that case was the fact that the woman actually had several corroborating "witnesses" – which is to say, people who were willing to back her story up – despite the fact that it was patently false. For anyone paying attention, this was a harsh lesson in the limited value of so-called witness corroboration of events that are decades in the rear-view mirror – even assuming that people aren't outright lying. What we've learned in recent years about the reliability of human memory does not bode well for the veracity of witness testimony, long regarded as the gold standard of legal evidence. It's as sobering as it is chilling regarding its implications for past convictions.
Looking at Reade's cast of supporters, you see telltale signs of invented memory – stories changing with subsequent rationalizations, inaccurate recollections of the political atmosphere of the time, people who only recalled the events after having been prodded by Reid ("Oh yeah, you did tell me about that!"), etc. Yet pundit after pundit in mainstream publications – not to mention the various partisan rags – credulously accepted Reade's allegations based entirely on the "witness" count, tossing aside blatant contradictions with Reade's previous public statements as "revealing further details".
Ultimately, the Reade case forced people to acknowledge the untenable nature, however well intended, of "believe all women". Even more so, it shone a light on how readily pseudo-scientific claims from psychologists and therapists had created a standard by which claims of sexual misbehavior were rendered utterly unfalsifiable, under the belief that no contradiction in an accuser's story could be inconsistent with an expected pattern of jagged recollection. Combined with an understandable yet paternalistic, if not utterly infantalizing, ethic of hesitation to challenge public accusations on the basis of the chilling effect it will have on other victims, this creates an easily exploited culture of willful credulity.
For those of us in the Never Trump movement, what unites us is not necessarily shared politics, but a shared value for the essentiality of truth. And that includes acknowledging when, despite having incomplete information, the weight of evidence does not accord with our "priors" and suggests an inconvenient reality. This can't happen without standards of fairness and objectivity, and it's why modern social media "activist" movements, with their decentralized, grassroots nature and lack of accountability, are doomed to fail if their adherents do not value credibility and willingly submit to rigorous self-examination and mutual scrutiny.
More flaming a**holes in this report than a Preparation H commercial. To borrow from Shakespeare, "First thing we do is kill all the MAGA preachers . . ."
I wonder if Pastor Ascol has ever encountered a church member during his years in ministry who had committed adultery, and if so, if he called for the death penalty as Leviticus also prescribes...
Baptist leader Tom Ascol quoted Leviticus 20:13. Notice how he ignores the admonition three verses prior to that one: And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
A textbook example of the buffet style religion of these hypocrites.
The biggest difference between Desantis and tRump is that the first guy is just a vicious fascist, and the other is criminally insane, and will use any angle for a criminal grift.
the governor god of florida is just a ham fisted brutal bully,in it for power over everyone. TFG is just a conman, in it for money and personal glory and the glee of the grift.
They are both dangerous. The grifter must be convicted for his crimes. The governor god must be stopped before he opens concentration camps for Disney execs and LGBTQ and POC folks... and all women... and the death penalty for anyone who dares speak truth in his "realm".
As for the "evangos" who support either of these men... well, they've been grifting for centuries, so... why do any of them have tax exempt status again?
Cheap shots-who the F is Joey whoever? Great, boycott Chick--whatever, I’m sure they’ll be so hurt. Geez 🙄
SIGH....I was going to say I survived thus mornings Slack Tide....but The Morning Shots has me down for a count.
NYT: "The New York Times BREAKING NEWS : The House passed a bill in a bipartisan vote to avert a default on the nation’s debt and set spending limits. It heads to the Senate next." Apparently 314 to 117.
Interesting discussion with Michael, especially on the recent backlash against gay culture.
While we have always attributed the anti-gay position in the right wing to its religious leanings, a story in either the NYT or WaPo (probably Phillip Bump) had stats that the far right ain't the churchy people that it once was.
While probably calling themselves Christians an solid majority of right wing Republicans had "infrequently" or "never" attended a church service in the past year!!!
So while accusing Dems of being God-hating, secularists...the right-wing culture seems to enjoy the same "eating left-over pizza" on Sunday morning instead of Communion hosts.
.
RE: Musk and Twitter
That works out to $422k a week he's burning.
desantis with the help of his compliant legislature and at times over their objections is already de facto fascist dictator of FL. His desire to control all business, how they think, what they say. His full on school indoctrination of children, his banning of books and speech HE does not agree with and his unmitigated cruelty in how he deals with immigrants and minorities. For desantis cruelty is indeed the point. But the man is not likable and as long as t**** draws breath pudding fingers is going nowhere
RE: Paxton
FYI, I think Charlie knows this, but because he wrote at the end about Trump's belief that Paxton is still AG and more importantly, will have the power to influence the 2024 election, an interest point didn't come across.
The important point is that while Paxton currently remains AG in title, after his impeachment he was immediately SUSPENDED from his duties until the conclusion of the impeachment trial in the Texas Senate:
https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/27/ken-paxton-impeached-texas-attorney-general/
Is anyone trying to figure out who is paying for all of these evangelical or right wing kooks? It seems to me that the money must be coming from a few, very wealthy donors who want to keep the current crop of Republicans in office to give the donors more tax breaks and increase their wealth. The total amount of corruption is mind blowing. Someone needs to be keeping track.
If it wasn't obvious at the time, I think it's clear in retrospect that Tara Reade was effectively the nail in the coffin of the #MeToo movement. A movement which, regardless of the good it accomplished, was always fated to collapse under the weight of credibility concerns.
Not only did Reade turn out to be an unctuous Putin apologist, further investigation revealed that she had a history of making dubious or ouright fraudulent assertions in her personal and professional life. Her claims regarding her educational and professional background, upon which she had served as an expert witness in several trials, were found to be fabrications. She could have been prosecuted for perjury had it been determined that her testimony was ultimately material to the cases in question.
You may also recall a separate accusation at the time which, ironically, ended up further dousing the flames of Reade's accusations. The daughter of one of Biden's old Delaware political rivals had claimed that decades ago, when she was around 14, he had made some inappropriate comments regarding her body at a political event. This story was notable for just how quickly it was snuffed out, as it was easily determined that Biden hadn't actually attended that event. At which point the accuser adjusted her story to state that it must have been from the same event the year prior. Turns out Biden wasn't at that one either.
But what was really notable about that case was the fact that the woman actually had several corroborating "witnesses" – which is to say, people who were willing to back her story up – despite the fact that it was patently false. For anyone paying attention, this was a harsh lesson in the limited value of so-called witness corroboration of events that are decades in the rear-view mirror – even assuming that people aren't outright lying. What we've learned in recent years about the reliability of human memory does not bode well for the veracity of witness testimony, long regarded as the gold standard of legal evidence. It's as sobering as it is chilling regarding its implications for past convictions.
Looking at Reade's cast of supporters, you see telltale signs of invented memory – stories changing with subsequent rationalizations, inaccurate recollections of the political atmosphere of the time, people who only recalled the events after having been prodded by Reid ("Oh yeah, you did tell me about that!"), etc. Yet pundit after pundit in mainstream publications – not to mention the various partisan rags – credulously accepted Reade's allegations based entirely on the "witness" count, tossing aside blatant contradictions with Reade's previous public statements as "revealing further details".
Ultimately, the Reade case forced people to acknowledge the untenable nature, however well intended, of "believe all women". Even more so, it shone a light on how readily pseudo-scientific claims from psychologists and therapists had created a standard by which claims of sexual misbehavior were rendered utterly unfalsifiable, under the belief that no contradiction in an accuser's story could be inconsistent with an expected pattern of jagged recollection. Combined with an understandable yet paternalistic, if not utterly infantalizing, ethic of hesitation to challenge public accusations on the basis of the chilling effect it will have on other victims, this creates an easily exploited culture of willful credulity.
For those of us in the Never Trump movement, what unites us is not necessarily shared politics, but a shared value for the essentiality of truth. And that includes acknowledging when, despite having incomplete information, the weight of evidence does not accord with our "priors" and suggests an inconvenient reality. This can't happen without standards of fairness and objectivity, and it's why modern social media "activist" movements, with their decentralized, grassroots nature and lack of accountability, are doomed to fail if their adherents do not value credibility and willingly submit to rigorous self-examination and mutual scrutiny.
More flaming a**holes in this report than a Preparation H commercial. To borrow from Shakespeare, "First thing we do is kill all the MAGA preachers . . ."
Does Chick-Fil-A hiring a VP of DEI mean that we are going back to the Chicken War of 2012?
Good point. I definitely will not patronize any company who seeks to control women.
Can I eat ChickfilA with a free conscience now?